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Monday, August 14th, 2017 08:12 am
Am I odd because I tend to see things like the Damore memo (the "Google manifesto", the thing which got James Damore sacked from Google for creating an unfriendly work environment) and the Charlotteville terrorism as being manifestations of the same principle?

The principle being "The only Real Human Beings are white men".

As a woman (and a person with a disability) I tend to find this somewhat frightening. I find it more frightening when people treat all of this as some kind of intellectual exercise, rather than the very real attempt at dehumanisation, at objectification and at rationalisation for actual violence it is. As a woman who would have had to fight to have her very humanity recognised a century ago, I find this reversion to a perceived historical mean to be deeply frightening. I can't imagine how upsetting it must be for people of colour in the USA, and for indigenous people here in Australia to be seeing this.

We need to speak up. We need to speak out. We need to oppose this principle in all its manifestations - in the supposedly "civil" ones like the Damore "memo" (query: how "civil" is a multiple page ramble which boils down to "I am not willing to behave in a respectful way toward a large number of my co-workers and managers because I don't think they're Real Human Beings like me, and I strongly believe I shouldn't have to work alongside them"?); in the virulently obvious ones like the Charlotteville march. In all its manifestations, in every space (including the police forces, the public service, the private sector and the rhetoric of our politicians) we need to oppose this principle, because we have seen what happens when it is allowed to run free. We have seen it in so many different circumstances - in the extermination camps of Germany; in the slavery of the American South; in the so-called "off-shore processing" camps on Nauru and Manus Island; in the Intervention; in the massacres down through the ages; in the Trail of Tears; in all the little slings and arrows of colonialism, of racism, of sexism. We know this principle is socially toxic.

So why do we keep allowing people to spout it as though firstly, it's something new and radical, and secondly, as though it's a valid point of view?
Monday, August 14th, 2017 04:18 am (UTC)
Am I odd because I tend to see things like the Damore memo (the "Google manifesto", the thing which got James Damore sacked from Google for creating an unfriendly work environment) and the Charlotteville terrorism as being manifestations of the same principle?

Nope.

So why do we keep allowing people to spout it

Well, as opposed to what? Criminalizing it a la Germany?

I mean, I'm not against killing Nazis. I'm just unconvinced it works. I mean to actually stop Naziism, and similar genocidal/supremacist movements.

Tuesday, August 15th, 2017 03:38 pm (UTC)
The upside of killing a Nazi is that it stops that Nazi from doing any more harm. The downside is that it doesn't stop any other Nazi. Now admittedly, if you kill off enough of them, eventually you achieve a better quality of life simply thru attrition of a toxic sub-culture; the kicker is that "eventually" will be a long time coming.

On the gripping hand, it's better than doing nothing at all.
Wednesday, August 16th, 2017 02:31 pm (UTC)
The best way to combat intolerance is through exposure. If you know someone who is (insert group here), you learn that they worry about bills and mow their lawns just like you. They become people, rather than "the other".

Unfortunately, the neo-nazis/white supremacists go beyond intolerance into hatred. It is cult-level conditioning to believe that the (insert group) person living down the street from you, who pays their taxes and plays with their kids like you, is anything other than human.

I don't support killing them, (that just encourages radicalization) but I do believe in labeling them correctly. They're not "alt-right". They are white supremacists, a radicalized terror group that advocates hatred and violence towards others. And they should be arrested as such.