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megpie71 ([personal profile] megpie71) wrote2010-02-22 08:26 pm

Sometimes Shit Happens

Interesting day today. I had my first appointment with the counsellor at the university I'm attending (I went in to see them because the stress of the first week was making me feel as though I was falling to pieces. I probably still am). So of course, with it being the first session and all, there's the discreet questioning to find out whether I've been raped, assaulted, sexually abused, physically abused, whether I've been taking drugs, etc - basically to find out whether there is a REASON for my depression.

In my case, the answer is "actually, no." I've never been raped (I'm in the fortunate five out of six so far); I haven't been physically or sexually assaulted or abused; I've never taken drugs except for the ones prescribed to me (and at least one day out of every seven I don't even manage that). So there isn't a great big shining REASON for my depression I can point to and say "that's why I'm depressed". But try explaining this to the average layperson who doesn't have depression, and they look at me as though I'm even more crazy than I actually am - I can't just be this depressed without a REASON; it goes against all logical thought.

And hey, maybe there was a REASON, sufficiently far back down the family tree. Maybe four or five generations back one of those big ugly traumas did happen, and I'm getting the behavioural echoes passed on down the family tree through generation on generation of emotionally neglectful parenting. But I rather doubt it. My suspicion is that what's actually at the heart of all this is the fundamental neutrality of the universe - or to put it simply, sometimes bad shit happens to good folks.

This whole thing resonated with me a lot more than usual as a result of a post of Lauredhel's I'd read before leaving for the campus this morning, where she was responding to one of those standard "my partner wants to try $SEXUAL_ACT with me and I don't want to do it, what should I say?" responses in an advice column (or at least, that's what the sparking article reads as). In Lauredhel's response she points out that "Not every vanilla sexual preference is due to massive underlying psychological issssssssyews." - and that maybe what's needed isn't so much the compulsory searching for a reason why a person is saying no, and more of a willingness to just accept no as a legitimate answer on its own.

So maybe what's needed is a little less time spent searching for the massive, traumatic REASON for my mental illness, and a bit more time spent on dealing with the reality of its existence.
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[personal profile] lauredhel 2010-02-25 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
megpie, this is a good post about what I see as an important issue. Would you be open to me linking to this from FWD?
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[personal profile] maevele 2010-02-26 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
this so much. the only therapist I ever got on well with, at our second session I asked her if she wasn't going to try to "get to the root of my problem" like the others had, and she said doubtfully "do you think that would be useful?" and went on to actually help manage my symptoms. of course, I lost the insurance that let me see her. blegh.


here from the FWD link
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[personal profile] lilacsigil 2010-02-26 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
(here via FWD)

I've been depressed for over a decade now, mostly pretty well controlled with medications, and I'm still learning to differentiate what I call "sad with a reason" and "chemically sad". Sometimes, like the last few days, I just feel bad, and the best thing to do is to stay calm and wait it out. Sometimes, there really is something causing a problem - but it doesn't do any good desperately searching for a REASON when there isn't one.
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[personal profile] lauredhel 2010-02-26 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh.

I had a neurologist absolutely insist that I must be depressed - because the only appointment I could get for months and months was in the evening on the day I MOVED HOUSE. While really, really sick.

Yeah, I wasn't so good at that time. Unsurprisingly.

thank you

[identity profile] dreamingiris.wordpress.com 2010-02-26 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for posting this—I HATE this. I have major depressive disorder, and I've had it my whole life. I didn't know what it felt like to be happy and at peace until recently, on medication. My whole life people asked "Why?" "What's wrong?" "Why are you crying?" and didn't understand that I didn't understand why myself. It was so frustrating, especially as a child, not understanding myself why I felt that way or that it wasn't normal. Even now people want to know "why". That's why when I feel down I feel like I have to pretend I'm fine, or I lie and tell people I'm tired or my stomach hurts. They need a reason.

Re: thank you

[personal profile] justira 2010-03-04 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
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Yes, this. It's especially frustrating when they're obviously trying to help and understand, and they think that "why" is a good way to get to that understanding. They just don't realize that it's not always "why" that's the best route, sometimes you just have to start at "how" or even "what" and go from there.

I have a similar problem with my partner — he often notices when I'm doing worse and then he always asks "what's wrong?" as in "why are you suddenly doing worse?" It's frustrating, because most of the time I don't have an answer: it just IS. It's a fact, now we deal with it.